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RexTheRoadDog wrote...
WOW. The most passion filled topic seen for some time. Gotta agree with Randy Joe here. Loner you do make some valid points that I happen to agree with and others that I vehemently disagree with. To paint with a brush as wide as you have used really insults 99% of the members here. After reading your profile statements I would agree that you are most likely a hard-core biker. That is good for you and I respect that!. Your lifestyle is not mine and I hope you can respect that.
Most of the people here are free thinkers and really do not fit your definition of biker. I for one do not. Actually I don't care to fit anyone's definition of anything, sans being “A good Man.”
So I guess you are correct. I am not a 'biker', merely a man (hopefully a good man) who rides a bike and smiles when doing it.
I also see you are from the great state of Kentucky. I am inviting you to come by the Meet & Greet in Bowling Green the weekend of the 25th of June. I would love to have a FRIENDLY discussion with you over a beer or two and a fine cigar. My beer and cigar! Yea I know I have already said what I through was my last statement. Loner let me just say Rex has pretty much summed it up for how we feel, and I promise, if you come to the Meet and Greet next week we will all be eager to hear road stories of your experiences, and try to extract some of your vast knowledge with Bikes. Hope to see ya there Dragon
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I think this whole "BIKER" debate comes down to this. There are a LOT of people that buy HD's & get tattoos, because they "think" it makes them a bad ass. The term biker has unfortunately become a generic term. I believe a true biker is a 1%-er or rider that has the personality, life experiences and/or maturity to be accepted around 1%-ers. If it's not a lifestyle, the term biker should not apply. I have no desire to patch into a 1% club, but I ride with 1% clubs occassionally and am proud to be asked to do so. I live by the code of conduct expected of a true biker. These guys that buy their first harley at the same time they get their first tattoo, then duck-walk their bikes because they can't properly ride, consantly racking off their pipes to see who's looking are the ones that give true bikers a bad name. Usually the guy riding in docker shorts and flip flops. These immature riders that need a bike to make them feel like somebody are generally the ones that don't know how to act in public. They pop off about someone's wife or girlfriend, are dis-repectful to others, brag, and generally are the guys you see getting their ass kicked by a true biker. These are also the guys that will swear up & down they used to have a 46 panhead. I just ignore them. They are seen for what they are by the true bikers that have a brotherhood that can never be understood by the wannabee |
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HogHaven wrote...
I think this whole "BIKER" debate comes down to this. There are a LOT of people that buy HD's & get tattoos, because they "think" it makes them a bad ass. The term biker has unfortunately become a generic term. I believe a true biker is a 1%-er or rider that has the personality, life experiences and/or maturity to be accepted around 1%-ers. If it's not a lifestyle, the term biker should not apply. I have no desire to patch into a 1% club, but I ride with 1% clubs occassionally and am proud to be asked to do so. I live by the code of conduct expected of a true biker. These guys that buy their first harley at the same time they get their first tattoo, then duck-walk their bikes because they can't properly ride, consantly racking off their pipes to see who's looking are the ones that give true bikers a bad name. Usually the guy riding in docker shorts and flip flops. These immature riders that need a bike to make them feel like somebody are generally the ones that don't know how to act in public. They pop off about someone's wife or girlfriend, are dis-repectful to others, brag, and generally are the guys you see getting their ass kicked by a true biker. These are also the guys that will swear up & down they used to have a 46 panhead. I just ignore them. They are seen for what they are by the true bikers that have a brotherhood that can never be understood by the wannabee Yea if someone told me they use to have a 46 panhead I'm calling Bull Shit. The Panhead didn't come out until 1948 and were made up to 1965 Dragon ______________________ |
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HogHaven wrote...
I think this whole "BIKER" debate comes down to this. There are a LOT of people that buy HD's & get tattoos, because they "think" it makes them a bad ass. The term biker has unfortunately become a generic term. I believe a true biker is a 1%-er or rider that has the personality, life experiences and/or maturity to be accepted around 1%-ers. If it's not a lifestyle, the term biker should not apply. I have no desire to patch into a 1% club, but I ride with 1% clubs occassionally and am proud to be asked to do so. I live by the code of conduct expected of a true biker. These guys that buy their first harley at the same time they get their first tattoo, then duck-walk their bikes because they can't properly ride, consantly racking off their pipes to see who's looking are the ones that give true bikers a bad name. Usually the guy riding in docker shorts and flip flops. These immature riders that need a bike to make them feel like somebody are generally the ones that don't know how to act in public. They pop off about someone's wife or girlfriend, are dis-repectful to others, brag, and generally are the guys you see getting their ass kicked by a true biker. These are also the guys that will swear up & down they used to have a 46 panhead. I just ignore them. They are seen for what they are by the true bikers that have a brotherhood that can never be understood by the wannabee Hey ! HogHaven ? ya know when I first read your message I got pretty pissed off....then I re-read it n it does make complte sense...you said " I believe a true biker is a 1%-er or rider that has the personality, life experiences and/or maturity to be accepted around 1%-ers. Now I don't smoke anything, do any drugs but sometimes I make poor choices when i drink then ride ----working on that one :)----
but the whole thing behind the statement I quoted you is this.....1%ers and or outlaw bikers worte the book on biker brotherhood n if a person cannot wrap their head around this concept then well ? don't call yourself a biker...U are a motorcycle eintheuiest...the other day I stopped on I-205 to assist a biker that had a flat and of all the bikes that rored past only 1 group stopped...it was 5 members of the outsiders club---------enough said ? RandyJoe...Ride Strong... |
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I guess im just a Wanna Be because I have my leathers and tattoos but I dont have a bike as of yet. But o' well there are some "Bikers" I dont care to know because of there additudes, and there are some I do because of there Additudes. As for building my own bike I would love to but i would not be safe enough on my own to do it and then ride not ever having the chance to do it as of yet. And as for the Harley-Davidson motorcycle I have wanted one since I was about 3 years old when I Sat on the first bike ever. Was it a Harley-Davidson? No it was a Honda but at 3 years old it was a Harley to me. To me a HD (To Some: Hondas, Kawi's, exc.) is like a Defined Woman they get better with age. But this is my opinion and we all know what opinions are like A$$hole$ every one has one (or is one in my case). Call me a Wanna Be if it makes you feel better I never liked the "Biker" title anyways. ______________________ If You Can't Stand Behind Our Troops, Feel Free To Stand Infront of Them! |
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Seakers wrote...
I guess im just a Wanna Be because I have my leathers and tattoos but I dont have a bike as of yet. But o' well there are some "Bikers" I dont care to know because of there additudes, and there are some I do because of there Additudes. As for building my own bike I would love to but i would not be safe enough on my own to do it and then ride not ever having the chance to do it as of yet.And as for the Harley-Davidson motorcycle I have wanted one since I was about 3 years old when I Sat on the first bike ever. Was it a Harley-Davidson? No it was a Honda but at 3 years old it was a Harley to me. To me a HD (To Some: Hondas, Kawi's, exc.) is like a Defined Woman they get better with age. But this is my opinion and we all know what opinions are like A$$hole$ every one has one (or is one in my case). Call me a Wanna Be if it makes you feel better I never liked the "Biker" title anyways. Nice bike Bro....... |
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Randy Joe, you in Oregon? I lived in Dundee until Oct 2008. |
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I, like anyone else posting on this subject mean no disrespect to Loner or anyone else. I've ridden motorcycles for 40 some years, off and on, and I've enjoyed it all. I will ride till i cant sit up on one anymore, and will love every minute the Good Lord allows me. I will respect the ways of the "True Biker", as long as they respect mine. ______________________ Hollywood
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RandyJoe wrote...
Seakers wrote...
I guess im just a Wanna Be because I have my leathers and tattoos but I dont have a bike as of yet. But o' well there are some "Bikers" I dont care to know because of there additudes, and there are some I do because of there Additudes. As for building my own bike I would love to but i would not be safe enough on my own to do it and then ride not ever having the chance to do it as of yet.And as for the Harley-Davidson motorcycle I have wanted one since I was about 3 years old when I Sat on the first bike ever. Was it a Harley-Davidson? No it was a Honda but at 3 years old it was a Harley to me. To me a HD (To Some: Hondas, Kawi's, exc.) is like a Defined Woman they get better with age. But this is my opinion and we all know what opinions are like A$$hole$ every one has one (or is one in my case). Call me a Wanna Be if it makes you feel better I never liked the "Biker" title anyways. Nice bike Bro....... Thanks it's not me it was a search for funny bike pictures. This is me. ______________________ If You Can't Stand Behind Our Troops, Feel Free To Stand Infront of Them! |
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Yeah, nothing against you Loner. I respect you for your accomplishments and the life you live, but not so much for your broad judgement of other people who aren't like you. Like Defcon said, there was a fair amount of hypocrisy in your post, so living the life you've described is really not possible for an adult with responsibilities. Sorry, I don't think that makes someone any less of a biker. I guess I'll take a second and grag up on my old man a little.... He started the first Christian motorcycle club in the country that was specifically aimed at reaching the 1% clubs; his first bike, and first cross-country trip, was done on a Honda 150 Dream, his second on a 305 Dream... he later DID get a Harley, and did most all of his own work to that, too. It was stolen in Nashville before I was born, and was replaced by a Yamaha 650 XS with some upgrades done by the previous owner. His club's Road Captain gave him a Harley trike, which he rode for a while and then gave to a Vet with an amputated leg, so the guy could still ride.... And then, from the time I was about a year old, until about 7-8 years ago, he didn't have a working bike at all, or the money to buy or fix one up, not until he finally got on another Yamaha 650 XS. His old one is in my garage, torn down, where I'm trying to rebuild it into a nicer ride than what he's on now; He does most of his own work, but he's a bit old-school, and the metrics from the 80's are a little more complicated than the American touring bikes from the 70's, and the Hondas from the 60's, so there's a few things that he's had to give someone else to do.... point is, you can't tell someone like that that they're not a biker and expect them to take it laying down. There's a lot more folks like that here... Like I said, hat's off to you for your accomplishments, I'd say I'd have a beer with you, but I don't drink, so mine will be a water or a coke.... I'd still buy you one, though, and I'd sure wanna hear everything you can tell me about building bikes, 'cause I sure don't know what the heck I'm doing yet lol. (I'll figure it out, though! :)) |
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I ve rode with the clubs and rode with the posers and if ya like to ride LETS RIDE i dont care what kind of bike ya have the road dont care who ya are PEACE |
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Hollywood wrote...
I, like anyone else posting on this subject mean no disrespect to Loner or anyone else. I've ridden motorcycles for 40 some years, off and on, and I've enjoyed it all. I will ride till i cant sit up on one anymore, and will love every minute the Good Lord allows me. I will respect the ways of the "True Biker", as long as they respect mine.Well put Hollywood ______________________ |
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