Badinfluence and Nightdragon hit the heart of it. Deep down it comes to those personal issues. And, when they get one stuck in their arse an elephant could piss with, and they have to fix their own way ut of it, they will realize they have been posing and will adjust themselves accordingly as bad influence said.

I have built more bikes then I can remember, and have been proud of every one, show worthy or not. But I have no problem with the production choppers being entered in shows, just as long as they are in their own class. Hell I go to car shows all the time and most of the owners don't do anything more than way them.